bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 0:00

Hey, what's up everybody? So in this episode, I am started a new series on Instagram called the creators exchange where I have interviews and conversations with different creators around what is some of their experiences, knowledge and information that I want to share with people like yourself. And in my kickoff episode, I had a great conversation with an awesome videographer that specializes in weddings, named Ori, where we discuss a little bit about sort of his process and how he got into the wedding industry. But more importantly, how he was able to also start to connect with a collective of other creatives across the country through Canons Creators Program. And so it was a really great discussion and conversation to learn how he sort of transitioned and is moving from a solopreneur to Cray printer. Please let me know what you think about this episode.

Ore Dipe 0:54

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 1:06

Yes, sir. I can see Yes, sir. Yes, sir. What's going on? How are things all right?

Ore Dipe 1:10

I am doing good. How's your day going? Um, it's

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 1:14

one of those like, busy days, you know, just getting down to the task and just checking off the list, but it's just a process, you know? Fair enough. Fair. And how about yourself?

Ore Dipe 1:25

Honestly, man, just piling through the edits. He's going through edits are doing some rebranding, mostly right now. Just trying to rebrand myself when it comes to my wedding films. So yeah, mostly. Yeah.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 1:39

So let's jump right into it. So tell us for the people who are not so familiar with your work and who you are. Please give us a quick introduction. And what do you do?

Ore Dipe 1:49

Okay, so I'm kind of mixed around, I do a bunch of different stuff. But I think at the core of VIX is I am a storyteller. That's, that's kind of what I call myself. So I mostly do actually started with photography, photography, mostly fashion and beauty work. And then recently, just transition, it's actually shooting like weddings and more video content. And I also run a podcast to bid on the grand theory podcast. So

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 2:17

dope. Yeah. So that's why kids are kind of here. And you know, as this topic tonight is about sort of like going from the aspect of like a solo creator, to a creator printer. I'm someone who creates with like a community creates of others, and moving from service creating in silos by yourself. I'm wondering, how did you start as you just said, before, just now, you said taking photos. And he started to then move yourself into like, videos and doing weddings and stuff, but like, how did you first start like, Well, how did you start getting into Photos?

Ore Dipe 2:51

Um, photography, it's a funny way. Actually, back I'm originally from Nigeria. So back home, we usually I usually go behind my dad's back, because my dad had a camera. So no one actually knows this. The first time I'm actually saying this. So originally, I used to go behind his back and then just use his camera, like take photos. It started with like, I still have those photos to this day for like taking like clients. And back in my head. I used to be like, Yo, this is like, this is the shit surface worry of like, this is the shit. And then from there to just shooting like portraits and just reaching out to people, my friends, like, yo, hey, do you want to model for me, just reaching out to different people as he was model, and then just kind of build from there. And then I decided to do some mentorship with someone back home is a fashion photographer, super talented. And then did some mentorship with him. I learned a lot. I wasn't getting paid, but I was learning a lot.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 3:51

And like what was what was one thing that you learned that kind of stands out from everything? Was that mentorship?

Ore Dipe 3:59

I would say use what you have to get what you want. That was one thing he said a lot. It was like you're okay a lot of people get a lot of people complain like, oh, I don't have this camera. I don't have this money to get this. But it's like, use what you have right now. Create what you have to get what you want. And it's so basic. So there you go.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 4:19

No, I was gonna say like that, that is such a, like a fundamental foundational, you know, kind of piece of information because, like, let's be honest, we're as photographers, videographers, creators, I mean, we're in an industry that is built off of people buying built off of people, you know, selling us different gadgets and gifts to kind of create better content, but that's a forever endless bottomless pit. And so it's funny how people sometimes want the latest tech gear and items to start creating, but really, because of our mobile phones, the phones that we're on right now, they are so powerful that you Why don't you just start there?

Ore Dipe 4:58

Sure, exactly. So Oh, no, that was one of the biggest thing, biggest stuff that I really took. And it took me a long time to actually apply that principle. But now applying it, I'm like, Okay, now it makes sense. Any so.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 5:12

So that's dope. That's really interesting. And then how can you transition from, essentially send them around from photography to now? videos and stuff like that? Like, what was that transition period? Like and why,

Ore Dipe 5:25

um, when it came to video, honestly, it was just, I wanted to try something new. I felt like I got stopped with photography, because like, I was shooting the same stuff, always in the studio, just playing lighting. And it got to a point where I was like, You know what, this is nice. But like, I almost quit like this. I think I've told you before I was paid photography. I remember what am I? Still I told him, I was like, Yo, I'm done with this stuff. Man, I was just gonna go back to school. Finish up my degree and like, you know, stop by camera, and it is what it is. But I was like, oh, video was always like peeking in the back of my head. I was like, Oh, what about video. So I looked into it, bought some courses. And like, I just dove myself into it. Just that practicing shooting, all any type of video, you can think of music, commercial products, like any different kinds of stuff, and it wasn't paid. This was completely free. But just learn to see Hey, hi. What am I good at this and then it just kept going, just kept going right now at the pace rammer. Now if that's the case, I'm confident Okay, as you know what I'm doing. So

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 6:33

totally. And you know what, I commend you for that. I think, too many times people undervalue spec work doing IT pro bono for free. And, you know, I relate to that kind of story so much like, I first started my sort of like content creation career by doing stuff pro bono for free. I would then yes, slowly, but surely start to get jobs and commissions and then learn on their kind of dollar and dime. And then I started then testing with my own content testing with myself. And I think that's the process sometimes that you know, it's part of that central journey, where people again, at times, I don't know, they think you just jump into it, and then want to jump into it, you have to start lining those paid gigs. But there's, there's a lot of pressure on those gates. There's a lot of like, you don't have that luxury to mess up potentially. And you doing, like wedding videos, like if you miss that moment, it's gone. Right? Like so so tell us a little bit about like, what was your first wedding like? And how did you get that gig for the people out there who probably wants or aspire to do some wedding work?

Ore Dipe 7:50

Um, so the break it out in a simple way it was I just started reaching out to people I knew, pretty much I was like, yo, hey, do you know anyone getting married? Like you I'm trying to get into weddings I kill if they don't have a videographer. Just let me know. I'll be down to shoot it for free. It sounds crazy to shoot a free wedding for free. But I was like, I just wanted to get the experience. I wanted to see your I'm actually good at this. And do it enjoy filming this. And I reached out to like, all the people I knew, like models that I've shot with friends just reached out to different people. And also, I went that far to the point that don't do this if you can try it, but I own risk was I was I mean it's like different Facebook groups, like wedding groups. I was looking at people that shoot video, they didn't they they were getting married for 2022 So I went in and I typed in the geographer 2022 or wedding 2022 And I was reaching out to every single person I posted, saying hey, are you if you have a videographer for your wedding, it's not like you know, this is my photography page. I've shot this styled shoot for like you need a videographer. I'll be done shooting for you for free. And I will just chasing it I was just on Tinder and hunting and hunting and that I found how

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 9:03

many how many did you go through till you found that first one?

Ore Dipe 9:07

Um, I probably sent around close to like 30 messages,

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 9:12

priority 30 messages to get that one? Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's That's wicked. I think I'm always kind of like echoing to people that like this journey is all about like sort of perseverance and getting that I don't know that that experience of being whether it's been denied or getting it owes till you get that yes and Wow. 30 messages till you got one yes. For free. Yep. Okay, cool. Okay, so that you get this one message says Okay, awesome. We what they say that message. So

Ore Dipe 9:49

I literally said, I'm a videographer, whatever it is, and they're like, Yeah, cool. And I was like, Yo, let's get you a meet up. So I have a shoot at shadowbox studio. It's an amateur And we met down there just had a conversation just, you know, feel to feel the vibe. See there's a vibe down there. And they were like, Yeah, we like you. And I was like, Yeah, cool. I made a contract saying this is what you get. i This was me just going deep. I didn't know what I was doing. I was just like, you know, experimenting, just trying to figure it out. And yeah, many contracts looked up on Google just to see basic stuff you need to have covered so you don't mess yourself up. made one sign up. I think honey book at the time, they had like a deal where it was $1 a month for like six months. And I just signed up right away from honey book. I want to deep into it sign up, honey. Yeah. Yeah, all those stuff and send the contract. He signed it. And I was like, okay, good. I got my first wedding. I was just like, looking at wedding courses just to try and get an idea of how to do the wedding. Like stuff. Yeah, to look out for. So

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 10:56

yes. So. So I can imagine. And so what was the time difference between when he finally booked it to the actual wedding?

Ore Dipe 11:04

I'll probably say in a week or two. I

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 11:07

was like, Oh, we all get a two week or two week buffer

Ore Dipe 11:11

or so. Yeah, it was that time. Yeah.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 11:13

So okay, cool. So then, now, let's fast forward the day of the wedding. What happened?

Ore Dipe 11:23

It was hectic. Like I had, I went, I went down to this deck, rented some cameras and everything. And then I got down. My head was the first thing is striped shirt, I went to meet the bride. I was like, Hey,

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 11:37

nice. And real quick. You know what's awesome what you just said, or you said, you went and go Rex cameras. So not only did it pro bono, but you decided to rent additional equipment that you might need. So you've invested in yourself and you invested in getting that experience in hopes of learning and then finally hopefully executing on what you're delivering. I just wanted to shout that out. Because I think that goes that was a nugget that I think more people need to understand that you have to invest yourself. Sorry, continue.

Ore Dipe 12:07

Yeah, so yeah, to add to that, like, yeah, I rented like, I think it was a one of my friend actually burned me his camera. So I think I like a two three camera setup. So I have one of my own. He rented his his roommate, I rented another one. And then I rented some lenses, lav mic, to the love of the girm. A field recorder to record that audio from the mind is a bunch of different stuff, I rent it goes like I need to make this like crazy. That was my goal to make it like me. And so when I did everything got to the location went up to meet the bride, we already know each other, which was great. So it was not the first time meeting. So that kind of took the stress down. But then the bridesmaid. That's a different ballgame. Buddy there I do like five. Yeah, they're like four different females. And I was like, Okay, who went in there? Like I didn't know what I was doing. But like, you know, there's a saying I have I cannot change it a little bit. But like fake it till you make it to see and I used to have but I kind of like changed a little bit in the sense that believe that you deserve to be in this position, and then act like you're in that position. You know what I mean? So

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 13:20

I completely agree because like, what I mean, what happens when we're at those stages, like first of all, I believe that that cliche fake it till you make it. It what's more important is that whenever we're doing something new for the first time or putting that challenge on, we have that like little voice in our head that's kind of basically shouting out like what are you doing, you know that imposter syndrome that starts to bubble up? And if you don't like again, persevere through that motion then you're going to crumble when it comes to like executing or pursuing a new idea or pursuing something that you're scared about and like let's be honest, like I look at that those times that maybe I want to something actually interesting. Yeah. Cool. Go No, no, go ahead. Go ahead. Continue your story. Yeah, so

Ore Dipe 14:08

met up with the bride met the bridesmaid, I just try to keep my cool. That was my goal. Just keep your cool, keep your cool, it is what it is. And then after meeting with the bride, I just started shooting just set up my camera I set up my gimbal just try my best. And this was I think, my probably my third fourth time he's my gimbal also, I had a I had a glide cam but I changed to a gimbal so I was pretty much just practicing getting used to getting used to using my equipment. So got down there started shooting just started capturing as much as I can. And then the photographer came. That's not that's a different story too. You need to be able to deal with the photographer. It's not the wedding day is kind of messed up because you're both trying to work together to create an experience. So

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 14:59

do you know That's so interesting, like you've got smiling or it's like you got a crash course. And like, all the fundamentals like collaboration, working with people experiencing that unexpected wildcard, whether that's on the day of like creating an individual, a bridesmaid, or even to like a camera failing. And so like, you're just going through the process of like, oh, it was, it was. And that's, I'm curious to stick out a couple of things. What was happening between you and the photographer? And what was that experience? Like? Like, what, whether it was clashes or issues? Or like, what was that process like and what was bubbling up?

Ore Dipe 15:47

It was good. It was good. Because the biggest thing was, because I've been, I used to do photography, so I kind of understand how to communicate in a way. So I understand I was like, you know, hey, this is what I'm thinking, What are you thinking? And then because the photographer has more experienced than me, I kind of let her like, take the lead a little bit. But then then once in a while, I can like, hey, I want to try this, I want to do this. But like, it was pretty actually very good. And like, I made it clear, like, after a while, I was like, yo, hey, this is my first wedding. I just told her. And she was like, Oh, really? Oh, wow. But it was like, I just went when I first time, this is one thing I learned. First time I meet someone that came straight off, hey, I'm the videographer. Just trying to work together. If you need a shot, let me know, whatever it is just established a good relationship. And then you know, just try to help as much as you can. Because at the end of the day, I think me and the photographer are just there to get an experience for one a couple. So when 100 100%

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 16:43

Cool. So then talk to me, just I guess to wrap everything up around the story. What was the final product like and what was like, Did it meet sort of your vision or meet your standard?

Ore Dipe 16:58

I, I'm not gonna lie, I blew it. In a good way, in a good way. A good way, it was more I did way better than I thought I was gonna make. Like, it was like, okay, me, I think it's good. It's very good. And I was like, Oh, wow, I shot it. And I was like, Okay, I think I think I have time for this. And I just like, as soon as that first one, I made it. I was like, Okay, I'm diving deep into this, drop anything else? Or shooting photography, whatever. I just focused on this and dove deep into it. So it was good.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 17:32

And then how did the couple, like how did they sort of take your content and create a video you created?

Ore Dipe 17:40

They from what they told me to say they loved it. And then they were sure other family and that actually from that free wedding, somebody came to that wedding and saw me working and then reference me to a friend and I got a booking from it. Like, oh, they this was like a week to week after the wedding. So it's for next year. So it was super quick. And that's when I started experience. That's when I started seeing like there was a cord, how you carry yourself at a wedding. And then like putting yourself in situations where it can create opportunity. So unpadded 100%. So like that wedding alone paid for, like pretty much from getting that booking paid for pretty much as a code to get rented whatever it is paid for it. Because I've kept myself in that situation.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 18:24

No, totally. And it's funny because that's wicked to see that you got to return on it. So ultimately, you know, all that money you invested was kind of like you marketing yourself, you're getting experience and kind of killing two birds with one stone when you're trying to penetrate like this new industry or new space or new medium of sort of the content and grading. So I think that is such a smart thing to do. It sounded again, I could almost feel your heart kind of beating some of those moments when you're experiencing it, but I'm sure now you're probably just like, used to it so to speak or, or when those things like kind of come your way you like understand now what to do to kind of address it and overcome it in some capacity.

Ore Dipe 19:07

Oh 100% Like I mean, my first it's my first like the first year it's not a full year because instead of filming by when June, from June to now I've shot over 10 weddings,

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 19:18

which is ridiculous. Yeah, that's crazy. I threw myself

Ore Dipe 19:21

into it. And like I've gotten to the point where I'm like, I'm comfortable enough that like, I call myself the couple personal hype man, when I'm filming my bones make you feel I'm a hype man. That's why I call myself like you feel like you're a superstar. That's my goal to make you feel like oh shit. I'm a celebrity that kind of way and like I noticed it because like a lot of people like the bridesmaid or groomsman they said so I'm like okay, I think that's my superpower in a way so

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 19:49

totally, totally. So I want you to little bit know about the latest kind of venture or project you have. So We're dealing with Canon Canada. Where, correct me if I'm wrong, that was kind of you now Bridging the Gap into sort of this new space being a crater printer. And I wonder if you could tell us a little bit about first of what is this Canon Canada project you did? And then give us some context of what this collective or explore space was exactly. For people who don't know.

Ore Dipe 20:26

Okay, so it's pretty much. So the product itself is called cannon cannon futures creative project. So it's pretty much they take 20 people across the world, country itself, so across Canada, and they take you in. And the idea is, it's going to be a 12 month mentorship program where you have access to top people in the industry as mentors. So people like yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's crazy. I'm not gonna lie, like, you have people like, sorry, so

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 20:57

sorry. Before we dive into some of those details, how did you get into this? And when was this? When was when did it start? Like, when did it start? And how did you get into it? Okay,

Ore Dipe 21:09

so actually, they had the first year, I think, last year, so the first time they tried it was last year. And at the time, it couldn't apply, because it wasn't a permanent resident. And then January, I got my PR, great, thankfully, and then leave around July, June, maybe around that time, they dropped a post on Instagram saying, hey, but back four years to, and I was like, Okay, I looked into it. And I was like, Oh, shit. I read the whole program, right, everything. And I was like, should I apply it? Should I not, you know, like, impostor syndrome, like, Am I good enough? And then I think they ended around from a mistaken, I think the application closed early August, and came in this year, of this year was this year, early August of this year, that's when the application calls. So I think a couple of days before that, I came home from work. And I was like, You know what? Screw this. I set up my camera, I set up my audio and I just feel

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 22:08

like, okay, okay, let's take a step back. So you knew about this first project from a year ago? Or when did you first know about this Canon?

Ore Dipe 22:18

A year ago? So a year ago, they came out with the first okay. So it's a year ago?

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 22:22

And then and then you were kind of hemming and hawing about it till two days before the deadline? Yep. Okay, and so then, part I imagined part of the application was like, submit us a video describing why you should be part of this collective project and blah, blah, blah. Okay, cool. And then, um, what did you share for those who might have ambitions to one day apply for something or even to apply for this exact same program? Like, I'm curious, what did you say, in your application,

Ore Dipe 22:53

um, one was just kind of Oh, my story, like what I mentioned earlier on, which was how I actually got into photography. So I spoke about that, and then spoke about, like, where I'm trying to get to you. And like, my goal when it comes to like, the creative industry itself. And one of it was like, I'm trying to give back because I know a lot of people are trying to learn how to create better content, or better photos, or videos, whatever it is, and you don't really have that much resources. When it comes to at least in Edmonton, we don't have that they don't really have like a kitchen space. And one of my goals is to get into the position where I can actually like, teach people like, Hey, this is how you know studio lighting, or whatever it is, because I feel like I have a good eye for that. And then also tell us like storytelling, how to edit better videos called like, basic, when it comes to like teaching people stuff. That was one of the things I mentioned. And then honestly, was just being myself, just show him like my natural self, and just letting my work also speak for itself. Because I've been doing for five years now. And just letting that pilot work speak for itself. And I was fortunate enough to get in. So which meant the low knee

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 23:59

dope. And again, congrats for that. Because that's, I think, a huge accomplish. And correct me if I'm wrong, you were one of what 15 Or one of 20 from

Ore Dipe 24:08

across over 300 people.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 24:11

Holy cow across Canada, across Canada, which is a that's, that's, that's insane. That's insane. So okay, cool. So you're in you apply, you're accepted? And then what is the first activity or event that you do? And tell us all about that?

Ore Dipe 24:28

One of the first stuff you did was just like onboarding, so everyone can be in how to chat, mentor mentors, and then just introduced via zoom, via zoom. Yeah, via zoom. So that was the first was the first first first code that we ever did. And then after that, sorry,

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 24:44

and sorry, if you could tell us I don't know if you could did you learn a bit about the other creators that were part of the program during that Zoom? Or how did that or not really,

Ore Dipe 24:53

not really, to an extent to which just everyone just introduced introducing themselves letting them know hey, this is my face and this is my name? and stuff like that. So it wasn't really like connecting experience until the next one where they like fewer people, some some people are from Toronto, some people from BC we all feel down to the flow down to it was called bath. And then I drove down to bath. Because I mean, oh, yeah, so we all met them in bands and then we had like,

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 25:21

I hope they covered your gas or something. So

Ore Dipe 25:25

they covered the transportation itself. So okay, I just cos are pretty much well, yeah, so when we got down there and that was when we actually experienced like, you know, the in personal connection and honestly, you can't beat it, man. Like the experience I had. I'm grateful for Canon for what they did. It was one like once in a lifetime experience. Like, you cannot beat it like amazing people the wealth of knowledge. I got that those few days. It's ridiculous.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 25:55

Okay, okay. Okay, so let's, let's, let's unpack this a little bit for people who are curious, and especially for the ones who are other craters. So you drive down there, you finally get to the destination. Where's this destination about?

Ore Dipe 26:10

If I'm not mistaken, I can remember the cabinet name.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 26:13

But I'll look into it have to look into what it was. It was like a beautiful it was like a beautiful cabin layout

Ore Dipe 26:19

of the cabin. Yeah, I know. It's what's called a travel experience, I think perceived by bath. The they have like different adventures. So they're pretty good. That it was an amazing experience. I can't remember. I can't remember the name. But

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 26:33

yeah, good. Oh, good. Oh, good. And then And did they have like, which I can imagine like a list of gear and camera lenses and bodies for you guys to kind of test out or utilize? Or, like, did you have to bring all of your own stuff? Like how did that process work? In reference to sort of like workshopping some of these materials?

Ore Dipe 26:55

And I think this was one. This was one information I missed out. So after getting into the program, like every single 20 People got shipped equipment. So like, so so like, so like, so when I'm saying, Oh, this will say it's like, for real? It's, I'm grateful for what they did, because yeah, why did they think so? Everyone got shipped? Canon are 624, the 105 rF 35 And then some postcode Adobe subscription for like a year. And then six months. Squarespace subscription, like all those little stuff. It's crazy that I had that I got that. And yeah, yeah, several other equipment and then getting down there. They also got custom lenses if you try out different stuff like that. So yeah.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 27:43

Cool. And then to just nerd out a bit about some of the gear and lenses. Did you fall in love with any particular lens during that trip?

Ore Dipe 27:50

Oh, 100% 100%. Like, I use the RF 51.20. My gosh, it is gorgeous. I was like

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 28:08

no, that's so dope to kind of hear. And so I'm kind of moving forward about this. How long was this whole experience at bounce?

Ore Dipe 28:16

I believe it was. So it was four days in total, three nights, and then four days.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 28:22

So what was it like to meet these other craters across the country? And I'm kind of curious when you first met them? Like, what were you going through? Where were you? Were you excited? Were you scared? Were you? Like, like, how was that process first kind of meetings of the crowds and starting to like build relationships with them.

Ore Dipe 28:42

I would say it was more exciting because I met people around the same like the same age group as me doing the same stuff. So it was exciting, because I feel like I could communicate in the same language and we could understand each other. You know what I mean? And I was surrounded by like, insanely talented people. So I was like, I was like, in a room where there are people more creative than me, you know what I mean? It's so good.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 29:06

Totally. Because, you know, what's what's fascinating. I think sometimes we forget the value of what's it like to be just in a space where it's all just creatives learning from each other, feeding off that and just like reiterating or iterating on like, whether it's ideas, concepts, things that they've done, that's work, things that they've done, that stopped and just kind of unpacking that information. And I think through that process, like we can learn so much faster, you know, we can get ahead of like, you know, through that knowledge and experience, whether it's days or years, you know, ahead of ourself in terms of like learning something different. So on sort of like that process I'm kind of curious, as you said, you experience a ton of information that you're learning a ton of like value. Do you have like two or three like gems? That kind of takeaways that kind of come to mind that you learned from sort of the people and other creators?

Ore Dipe 30:06

Yeah, I have a couple, I think one is like, you just got to do it, like, just put yourself in that situation, man and don't, because it's easy as humans to just talk, like, you know, I want to do this, I want to do that I want to do this. Like, it's not just gonna happen, if you don't like, you know, as you need to do it. You know,

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 30:25

100 150%, I remember, when I first started working with people and helping facilitate live streams, I mean, that's kind of a very sketchy opportunity, because you can't really mess up there. If you can't dial back lives, and we can edit that out, like, everything's live, but you have to get your hands dirty. In order to succeed, you have to get your hands dirty to get that experience, and you have to show up and try and be comfortable and failing, in order to, you know, learn from it. So totally agree with that. Okay, and then what's another gem?

Ore Dipe 31:01

So I'll say, second one is also in a sense of, like, you just kind of touched it, which is, don't be afraid to like, you know, fail, because you actually don't fail you learn from it, you know, it's not a you don't fail, if you don't like you don't, it's not a failure if you learn from it. So I think that was the second one where they pointed out because like, a lot of them probably tried different stuff. And they didn't work out. But they tried.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 31:22

So So you have over that four days, three nights, did you have any failures that you come to mind?

Ore Dipe 31:30

I would say yes, you know, a bit, but it wasn't really a failure, because I learned from it. So it was, I was trying to everyone was, so it was like a project where we were getting like, you know, create a commercial kind of project. And that could be feeling like, I don't feel commercial, so something different. But I took my told myself, you know what, you gotta commit to this, try and make something different. And the first draft I did was okay, but it wasn't, it wasn't exactly what the project was about. It was just like, you know, just there in there, that there was a mixture of different stuff. And I had to, you know, get some feedback, did a redo after on people around like, hey, what do you think about this, but some feedback about it. And at that point, you can easily be like, you know, what, I don't shoot commercials, I can't do this. But I was at that, and went back, did some shoot interesting, different stuff, did the edit again, and I think it actually came out pretty well. So

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 32:27

that's dope. So you were so like, in real time you kind of like, shoot, produce a piece of content, edit it, and then try to like, work with others to get feedback and insights to figure out how you can tweak and improve it? Yeah. Oh, my gosh, that's so wicked. So okay, um, take a step back from these three gems that you're sharing. So like, what were some of the workshops or activities that you're doing throughout the whole four days?

Ore Dipe 32:53

So it was pretty much so something they called like the mastermind. So they had, like, top people in the industry had like three, four of them in different tables and conversations. So just ask them any questions you wanted to ask? Pretty much. That was like, a question about, you know, impostor syndrome, you have questions about branding yourself, you have questions about how do you stand out from the market a bunch of different stuff, you live, you had access to people right in front of you, and can ask them any question.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 33:27

So, so, in that access, and I'm jumping around a lot, but we're gonna go back to those gems. What was the some of the questions you asked when you have these experts around you?

Ore Dipe 33:40

Um, I'll say one of it was like, how do you do it? Like, you know, that in my impostor syndrome, but I also say, like self doubt, in a way, because like, you know, creatives, we tend to consume a lot. And create that. Oh, so. So I had that question. Because it was like, I, I struggled with this was, you know, seeing so many other wedding videographers, I killed them, how do they do this? How do they do this, you know, but you tend to forget that you're looking at what you've done. You know what I mean? So you consume so much, and then you forget to create

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 34:17

100% And like, I relate to that, like, I relate to that so much where, you know, because you're consuming all of these other craters, whether it's on YouTube, Instagram, or wherever, you start to compare yourself just naturally, but you don't see their journey. So you think to yourself, Well, shit, like, why isn't my stuff at that level? Or why isn't my edit that clean and simple? Or why isn't my production around that level of production? But then, like, I mean, if you audit all of them, they what they started over here, and over time got their after their 1000 videos, 500 videos, 200 videos, it didn't happen overnight. And so I totally that is such a smart question to ask. You know about Have that perpetual understanding of like, how do you get that mindset, right? How do you get that framework? Right? And how do you overcome sometimes these mental challenges like impostor syndrome?

Ore Dipe 35:11

Yeah. And then I think a lot of things to add to that, too was like, branding. How do you separate yourself? You know, because everyone is doing the same stuff. And can remember how he phrased it. I don't know if you've heard of them before. Is lifestyle brand photographers pretty big shot fashion. His name is Garrett. Maybe you've heard of him before? Okay. No, I'm so bespoke. I think I asked him a question. And it was like, I can't remember how he phrased it. But he had a quote where it was like, put it it was like, rather than trying to fit into the crowd, find a way to stand out. So it was like, not just shooting, what everyone else is shooting for shoot stuff in a way where your work is very different. For example, that's a wedding. A lot of people are doing slow motion, or the cinema slow motion cinematic, maybe you stopped doing that. And you're actually shooting 24 frames where it's more like actual documentary feels like a movie, not just, you know, so that's an example. But it was one thing that stuck with me, it was like, okay, shit, how can I separate myself when it comes to my work when it comes to the experience or career for people? And yeah, that was, that was one of the other stuff. And it was also like finding your style.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 36:28

That said, you know, it's funny. Like, as creators, I'm sure that we're all on this, like forever journey of trying to unpack our style we, we see so much, we test so much. And we iterate so much trying to figure it out. And I think, really, the only way that you could ever find your style is by just putting out as much work as possible. And not to fall into that trap of thinking that it's, you know, the logos it is the editing, it's actually just around just that raw output. And in that that's how you kind of discover your own flavor, your own essence that comes out in sort of your contents. So that's fascinating. That's, that's so dope.

Ore Dipe 37:07

Yeah, honestly, he's just by experimenting. He got to experiment like up. Like, what didn't What did I told myself, I'm going to be doing now especially now that wedding season is kind of dying down is I don't know, if you've noticed, I'm gonna be shooting more commercials, trying to get more commercial projects, because people learn it. Because if from now till, let's say, maybe March, April, I'm shooting commercials, I'm gonna learn so much, that when the next wedding season comes around, I know so much from the commercial space that I can take that knowledge, or that style that I learned from it, take it into weddings,

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 37:44

and they just fold and I think that's such a smart tactic because like even to just in the comments, my homegirl Natalie here just said, like, you know, it's our style that sets us apart from kind of everybody else. And so as your to what you just said, learning more about commercial products, photog RB, videography, and sort of some of those nuances. Bringing that into the wedding industry is going to be its own kind of like, twist look, ultimately style that you can then implement in order to stand out from the rest stand up from competitors. And, like, make sure you stand on top. Yeah, dope. So already, I'm like, That is so exciting to kind of hear and unpack on those weddings. I want to go back to the last gym, maybe I don't know what comes to mind. But you have one last gym that came from that weekend, or that week?

Ore Dipe 38:35

That see those so much, because

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 38:38

I'm gonna keep pulling value for overtime to pull as much value

Ore Dipe 38:42

as I can. I'm trying to pinpoint one. Let's see.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 38:49

Like, I'm kind of curious. Did anything stand out a brown like the topic of like relationships? Like, did you?

Ore Dipe 38:56

Oh, yes. Yes. Thank you. Yeah, thanks for relationship is probably the most number one stuff that matters the most minus you know, creating good stuff. Like relationships, your character energy, those three matters a lot. If you're, you know, people want to work with people that he like know, people that don't like,

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 39:20

Mm hmm. And like, that is so powerful because too many times like we think it's our content that's to be honest, that's getting us hired and it's not that it's actually they know you they see you they get whether it's that energy or that referral, that you're actually a good person that you're nice to work with and then comes down to like yes, you have some dope content and I think that is such an underrated aspect in the space of creating because I can guarantee it if you are producing like this The Titus best videos, but you are just a challenge and a headache to work with. Are you kidding? Like what who would Want to work with that person? Like, are you kidding me? Hell yeah. So that's, that's phenomenal. So looking forward now, it sounds to me if I'm wrong, you're about two months into this program. What is what is going to be going on in this program? What is What do you have to look forward to? And yeah, if you could share, share with us a little bit of those little snippets, if you can?

Ore Dipe 40:21

Yeah, I think honestly, so far, it's just like, you know, just learning from like, having access to mentors, pretty much you that are doing kind of what I want to do, you know, doing a full time living, creating content, and just having those access from them. They have, we have classes and just learning from those people. So like, you have like literally access to them. And you can ask them questions and whatever, you know, the some of them they talk about, like what's it called, like Caribbean MC put an example. Like your physical mental health, you like prioritizing, you're doing okay, so this bunch of different conversations we're going to be having, but that is having this ally, especially just having access to top of the top in the employee.

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 41:05

That's pretty holy.

Ore Dipe 41:06

That's, I like I like it's like, it's canon Canada, you cannot go wrong, like I'm sorry. That's one of the biggest brands in the logistics in the wall that you literally Oh,

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 41:18

so I mean, it's the the two biggest manufacturers of this whole space of camera gear, I mean, Sony, and it's canon. And yes, there's many other like, there's, there's so the other close ones, but those are the two leaders. So I'm kind of curious now, as we're gonna kind of slowly wrap this up, going from sort of your beginning journey, ultimately, which I would call a solar crater, where you were just testing some photography, getting your hands dirty in terms of film making in weddings, and doing that kind of isolated amongst Yes, your core circle people, but still kind of on your own, in comparison, now being two months in this program, and kind of having these resources having these people and having this knowledge to kind of now create better content. I'm wondering, what has that experience been like? And for those who have never had the opportunity to create those, why don't you can kind of give us just like that, you know, comparison, from your perspective?

Ore Dipe 42:18

I mean, just being check, greater question. Right. So it's like, what has been the experience, you know, from creating on my own? So right now, where I'm in a program where I have a bunch of order creatives, and just the difference between the two? Correct? Correct? Yeah, I mean, I'll say 100%. It's way better. Because, like I said, I have people around the same age as me doing the same stuff. That alone, you can't be it. It's like having like having people around you doing the same? Not the same, like exactly, but like they're creating, know what I mean, having that seeing those people work, getting inspiration, getting feedback, you know what I mean? So it's like, you can't beat it, you just can

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 43:00

just and are you are you now, whether it's through your website, or whether through other platforms, like are you at all going into other platforms, whether that's YouTube? Are you going into Squarespace? Like, I'm kind of curious what what, like, what, what's the next emerging spaces that you might be sharing your content on?

Ore Dipe 43:21

Um, so right now, like I mentioned, I am doing like a rebrand after this, and let me post a story about that. But I'm doing a rebrand. And it's sense of one going to be showing more of myself. That's one thing I don't do. I got called out for it. Actually, I think I called myself, I called myself out for it. And I realized that you know what, I don't show myself enough. And I need to start doing that. Because, like I mentioned, people work with people. So that's the first thing. So I'm going to start with myself, all this page is gonna stay the same, it's mostly going to be weddings. Yeah, also going to kind of get into the educational space a little bit when it comes to photography, especially studio photography, because I think I know, I know, I know, I know something about that. I'm educated. I'm not gonna say I'm not the best, it's way more better people than me. But I know enough that I can teach people. So I'm gonna end up going on to also the YouTube space, kind of trying to see trying to figure out how I can balance it. But it's going to be teaching people see your light in when it comes to like, fashion orchard or whatever is beauty. And then I'm also going to be educating people when it comes to how to shoot weddings. So one of my plan for texture is some of the ways I'm going to be going and going and making content and how to shoot a ceremony how to shoot a bridal party, how to shoot a couple's, how to shoot speeches, how to shoot a bunch of different stuff, how to create those content. And then I'm also going to get into the space to teach people how to edit. How do you collaborate? How do you sound design? How do you find the right music, so a bunch of different stuff, but the goal is to try and balance my photography side and video which is very challenging because I do weddings. It's kind of hard to balance it because people when they see when he's allowed to see weddings, during their licensing and stuff, so trying to find that balance is where I'm at right now. But I am going to end up getting to the YouTube space, most likely once I finish up the rebrand I'm doing right now. So yeah,

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 45:16

no, no, that's so exciting to hear. And, like, you made a comment about how you have some stuff to teach in sort of photography. But I would say to you just as like a little friendly, like little tip advice, you have a lot to teach, you know, we, we sometimes have that kind of curse of knowledge that when we have that information in our heads, we forget what was it like when we didn't? And so if you just started to kind of understand that, hey, at one point in time, you had no clue about how to do some portrait photography, how to set up your studio lights, and all those kinds of key components. Let me let me assure you, there's many others out there who have no clue how to do that. And so you have a lot of value to kind of bring to the table in sharing that information with them so that they can hopefully in a faster pace, learn from you and start the process of, you know, going down that path of whether it's photography or filmmaking, or just creating cool videos. Yes, sir. Henri, I just want to say thank you so much for taking some time out of your busy evening, to have a chat. I'm, I'm so pumped to hear that you got into this program, I'm going to follow up with you on each one of your little meetups, because I think this whole space of kind of connecting and creating others, especially from a national scale is huge. And I just want to see you win. And so I'm just excited to see what you produce. I'm excited to see how fast you grow. And I am sure this time next year is going to be just like a whole different world of like activities going anywhere in your space.

Ore Dipe 46:51

Man, that's really that's really the goal is just really just trying to grow. Just trying to I guess we can add one more stop just one more, I think we're almost done that I am starting to realize that you need to have the time to be creative is great. Oh, you got you, you Dad, that alone. Like because like I, one of my friends, you know, I'm gonna kill. I had a conversation with him a few weeks back. And he made a point that I didn't know until he brought it up. And he was like, look at where you started from and look at where you are right now. A few months ago, I wanted I legit like I was literally going to post my camera on Facebook marketplace and sell it. It's like legit, I was done. Like I was doing creating, because I was like, I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't, I wasn't enjoying it anymore. I was like, You know what, let me quit it. What can I do? How can I pivot? How can I change? I think that's one thing that's crazy struggle to do is like sometimes we forget that we can pivot we can try new stuff. We can Oh, let me try music video, let me try. Let me try fashion. Like there's nothing wrong with pivoting, it's still the same sort of same industry, or you're just doing as they're going from, like 90 degrees, or 360 or 180 to just change it

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 48:09

100% And I just echo the same sentiments that and grit it's so important, even to have these digital channels moving so quickly, even to switching your medium. So going from like, you know, taking a step back from potentially Instagram and going strictly on to YouTube or, or going on to tick tock and growing like just shorter videos and just having fun of that experience of creating short micro clip videos, or going super long form the other upstream and see like, hey, what's it like for me to kind of develop like a full motion, like documentary, doing those activities. And at times having that grit when everything's going self is vital, because like this, this space, this community, this market is constantly in flux. And so if you don't have that grit, if you don't have that perseverance to kind of straight up take those punches in the face, then I mean, you're not going to succeed and I mean that's that's even to going on to like the conversation or topic of entrepreneurship. You need that kind of fortitude. And it's there's nothing wrong. If you do choose to say hey, you know what I'm done. Because sometimes we need that break. We need that time and then maybe go back to it from after a certain period of taking a step back. But I'm happy to hear that you weren't you were unsuccessful in selling your camera on Kijiji and putting that out, I'm happy now that you're being empowered through Yes, you getting this new resource through canon Canada all the way down to you know, developing your business and your, I guess you'd say like career in doing our wedding and films.

Ore Dipe 49:50

Yeah, it's it's like, it's you just have to ask yourself some certain questions. It was like yeah, one of the questions this was I think was the biggest one that I asked myself and he's still there for me and asked if I quit this right now, can I justify that I've done my 100%? That was lousy the question I asked myself what to do if I give him 100% into this. And so it was though I just haven't, I wasn't. It wasn't shoot as much as I could. And as soon as I asked myself that question, and I got the right answer, I was like, No, I can't quit, because I didn't do my best. So if I can 100% And it wasn't successful, then it's like, okay, maybe it's not for me. But it finally I get my 100% into it. And I can fully like, you know, tap myself in the chest and say, yep, I gave him 100%. It just didn't work out. That's also fine to quit. But like I didn't, I couldn't justify it sounds like that you gotta go back in. So I'm grateful. Because

bobby.t – Robert Tyndale 50:47

you know what? And like, let's leave on that note. And so everyone who's tuning in watching this, whether you are in the creative space, or a professional of some sorts, are you giving yourself 100% in whatever you're trying to accomplish or do just want to thank again, already, thank you so much for coming on. And just having a chat. I want to thank all of you who tuned in on this. And looking forward to doing more of these conversations around building a creative space. Hey, what's up everybody, I hope you enjoyed that episode. And thank you so much for taking time to listen to it. Now I have a new mini course focused around helping you create better mobile videos. So if you're interested in learning some of these tactics and strategies to improve your video creation with your mobile phone, check out my website at just Bobby t.com Peace, love and can't wait to talk to you soon.